Of Brothers and Sisters [According to Egyptian Ptolemy]
last updated: 23/Aug/2021
V. Of Brothers and Sisters
Because it is the mother/women whom gives Birth to the Native, The Egyptian writer Ptolemy affirms that one shall look for the planets which has signification of Mother’s role, the Moon [night] and Venus [night], and from there the astrologer can anticipate or simple confirm the native’s siblings – which is a very different topic from the native having children of her/his own.
However, Ptolemy also pointed to the fact that adopted brethens or from other womb (other mother), such significations would change (be others) in the chart as well.
The “Maternal Point” then, is said to be signified by the Mc in anyone’s radix. So, if you want to know about possible mother’s future pregnancy how many brethens one would have after birth then look foward the Mc and 11th house and so forth.
“…As for that of brethren, if here too One examines only the general subject and does not carry beyond the bounds of possibility his inquiry as to the exact number and other particulars, it is more naturally to be taken, when it is a question of blood-brethren alone, from the culminating [Mc] Sign, the place of the mother, that is, [to] that which contains by day Venus and by night the Moon; for in this [Zodiac] Sign and that which succeeds it is the place of the children of the mother, which should be the same as the place of the brethren of the offspring.”
Preparation | The Native’s Radix |
1. | Night Chart: From Mc to Venus Sign Day Chart: From Mc to Moon Sign |
2. | Make the Mc and the 11th Place the Places of Mother’s Children |
Outcome | Configuration |
1. Abundance of Siblings
2. Death of Brethren
3. First to be Born or Reared
4. Few Siblings Caused by Death
5. The Distinguished Sibling
6.The Short-Lived Brethren
7. Sex of Sibling
8. The First & The Later-Born
9. The Happy Brothers & Sisters
10. Quarrels + Jealously
11. Derived Houses Method | 1. “… If, then, beneficent planets bear an aspect [or in it] to this place, we shall predict an abundance of brethren, basing our conjecture upon the number of the planets and whether they are in signs of a simple or of a bicorporal form.” – Venus or Jupiter aspect such Places? – How Many Planet are from the Mc to Venus (day) or Moon (night)? – Are they in Humane or Mutable Signs?
2. “… But if the malevolent planets overcome them or oppose them in opposition, they signify a dearth of brethren, especially if they have the Sun among them.” – Are Malefics overcoming these Places? – Are Malefics overcoming Venus/Jupiter? – Are Malefics in the 4th & 5th Houses? – Is the Sun in bad Aspect or Conjunct to these Malefics?
3. “…If the opposition is at the angles, and especially at the horoscope [first marker], in case Saturn is in the Ascendant, they are the first-born or the first to be reared;” – Is Saturn Rising? – Are Malefics Opposing Venus/Moon?
4. “…in case it is Mars, there is a small number of brethren by reason of the death of the others.” – Is Mars Rising? – Are Malefics Opposing Venus/Moon?
5. “…If the planets which give brethren [Venus/Moon] are in a favorable mundane position, we must believe that the brethren thereby given will be elegant and distinguished;” – Are Venus/Moon in Sect? – Are Venus/Moon in good Aspect to each? – Are Venus/Moon in their own or each other’s Term? – Do Venus/Moon look good to the 11th House Ruler?
6. “…if the reverse is the case, humble and inconspicuous. But if the maleficent planets overcome those that give brethren, or rise after them, the brethren will also be short-lived;” – Are Venus/Moon + 11th House Ruler out of Sect? – Are Venus/Moon + 11th House Ruler in Opposition?/Square? – Are Venus/Moon in Opposition/Square to Mc Ruler? – Are the Malefic in the Configuration in bad way? – Are Malefics Ahead of Benefics & Rising?
7. “…and the male planets in the mundane sense will give males, the female females;” – Are Venus, Moon & 11th House signs in Male or Female Zodiac Signs? – What is the sex of the Ruler of 11th House?
8. “…again, those farther to the east the first and those farther to the west the later-born.” – Are Venus/Moon + 11th House Ruler Rising or in the 1st and 4th Quadrants? – Are Venus/Moon + 11th House Ruler Setting or in the 2nd and 3rd Quadrants?
9. “…Besides this, if the planets that give brethren [Venus/Moon] are in harmonious aspect with the planet that rule!! the place of brethren [11th House Ruler], they will make the given brethren friendly, and will also make them live together, if they are in harmonious aspect with the Lot of Fortune;” – Are Venus/Moon + 11th House Ruler in Good Aspects? – If Lot of Fortune Involved in Good Aspect?
10. “…but if they are in disjunct signs or in opposition, they will produce quarrelsome, jealous, and for the most part, scheming brethren.” – Are Venus, Moon + 11th House Ruler Disjunct/Aversion or Square to each?
11. “…Finally, if one would busy himself with further inquiries about details concerning individuals, he might in this case again make his conjecture by taking the planet which gives brethren as the horoscope [again, method of Derivate Houses] and dealing with the rest as in a nativity.” |
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References
Tetrabiblos Ptolemy’s four books of the influence of the stars [or the Quadripartite Mathematical Treatise] translated from the Greek paraphrase of Proclus by j. m. Ashmand – [London, Davis and Dickson; 1822]
Ptolemy. Tetrabiblos. Translated by F. E. Robbins. Loeb Classical Library 435. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1940.
Porphyry The Philosopher – Introduction To The Tetrabiblos & Serapio Of Alexandria; Astrological Definitions (Translated from the Greek by ] James Herschel Holden, M.A.)